Joe Rock > Chad LeCroy ？ a day ago

　　I have been living in Taiwan for over 15 years。。。。married to Taiwanese。。。。working for Taiwanese companies。 95% of friends are Taiwanese。 Was here in 1987 when martial law was lifted。 I do have a clue as to what is happening here。。 I have talked to about 30 people in last two weeks about this and have yet to find one who supports the students methodology。 I am not a KMT fan。。。as are most of the people I talk to。 But they will not vote for DPP because the DPP has no solid political proposals。。 Everyone is very disappointed that DPP cannot evolve into a professional political party capable of addressing Taiwan issues with constructive proposals。。。instead of trying to constantly bad mouthing the KMT。。。。

　　我在台湾生活了15年，嫁给台湾人，在台湾企业工作，我95%的朋友都是台湾人，台湾自1987解除戒严至今，所发生的事情都我知道……我提个有建设性的建议，民进党只要停止试图不断地唱衰中国国民党，然后演变成一个专业的政党的话，台湾问题都能够解决。

　　chris > Joe Rock ？ 17 hours ago

　　I find this very hard to believe。 Ive talked to a lot more than 30 people about this， and most of them are on the students side， and the majority of them voted for President Ma

　　我发现这很难相信，我已经跟超过30个人谈过了这个话题。他们中大部分是还是学生，这些学生当中大多数人都是投票给马总统的。

　　Joseph Siew > Joe Rock ？ a day ago

　　Joe Rock， I wonder if you live in the same island as Chad。

　　Joe Rock，还真看不出来你是和Chad生活在同一个岛上的人呢。

　　Joe Rock > Joseph Siew ？ 21 hours ago

　　I think we are。 I and many others have watched the DPP misinformation machine for too long。 Yes， the KMT is not to be completely trusted。。。but this nonsense of KMT is all corrupt and and DPP will rescue Taiwan will cause DPP to lose the next election。 So like the last two elections。。。。the DPP will say they lost only because of corruption。。。。not because the DPP lacks professionalism。

　　我想，我们许多人都看着民进党误入歧途太久……不是因为民进党缺乏敬业精神。

　　Debby Hsu > Joe Rock ？ 16 hours ago

　　Please don't misunderstand that this movement is driven mainly by political party combat。 DPP and KMT are being almost equally criticized because DPP hadn't overseen the passing of service trade agreement sufficiently。 Now what the students are doing are simply reclaiming the dominance of legislature system because this is DEMOCRACY should be about！ You can for sure see DPP has been supporting this movement， of course the students need the support of the biggest opposite party in Taiwan to pressure the ruling party！！！ But this time it's really not about political party， it's about saving the deteriorating legislature system。

　　请不要把这次的反服贸运动看成是政党斗争，对此国民两党都是有批评声音的，民进党没有不让服贸协议通过。现在的学生们所做的仅仅是冲击了立法系统的优势地位而已，而这恰恰应该是民主社会应该容忍的！的确，你看到民进党一直在支持这一运动，那是因为学生运动当然需要最大的在野党的支持以顶住执政党施加的压力！！！但这真的不是政党斗争，它只是关于拯救日益恶化的立法体制的一场运动而已。

　　Joe Rock > Debby Hsu ？ 16 hours ago

　　"Reclaiming the dominance of legislature system"？ If DPP won the election they could hold the majority。 However， their policies are not popular so they lost。 I am sorry but you must win the elections in a democratic system。。。。not forcibly take over the legislature because you cannot win public support through elections。 You are completely distorting DEMOCRACY。 DPP has consistently blocked voting in the legislature (even for very transparent， open issues)。 This is not proper democratic process。 If DPP could present constructive proposals they could win votes and actually truly participate in democracy。

　　“只是关于拯救日益恶化的立法体制的一场运动而已”吗？如果民进党赢了选举的话，他们也能够持有多数。然而，他们的政策是不受欢迎的，他们输了选举。我很抱歉，但你必须在民主制度下进行。。。谁都无权直接接管立法院，因为你没有通过选举赢得公众的支持。我觉得你完全曲解了民主的涵义，民进党一直在阻止投票立法，即便是非常透明的，开放的问题。这不是正确的民主进程，如果民进党提出了建设性的建议，他们能赢得选票，真正参与民主决策。